Do you remember when the weather was small talk? It used to be a conversation you would have with a stranger at the bus stop, perhaps about the imminent rain or how unusually hot today is before it became quiet again and your ride arrived.

Climate today is one of the biggest, most consequential topics. Almost a decade after the Paris Agreement, reducing emissions has become more urgent. China and Indonesia, among the world’s largest coal producers, are interested in figuring out how to approach this challenge amid growing pressures to transition away from fossil fuels and into renewable energy.